Comments for An E-learning and Digital Cultures Blog http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip This one belongs to Ali Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:44:58 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 Comment on The shocking truth of being cyborg by jen http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/11/11/the-shocking-truth-of-being-cyborg/comment-page-1/#comment-28 jen Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:44:58 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/?p=110#comment-28 I saw Stelarc talk back in April-ish, and had the same reaction, Ali - that this is really pretty disturbing (literally disturbing flesh) stuff. I don't think Haraway shies away from that, actually - there is monstrousness and danger as well as pleasure in her cyborg bodies. As Silvana points out (http://digitalculture-ed.net/silvanad/2009/11/15/week-8-lifestream-summary/ ), Haraway's background is in biology, and perhaps that sheds light on her take on leaky human/animal and human/machine boundaries. I saw Stelarc talk back in April-ish, and had the same reaction, Ali – that this is really pretty disturbing (literally disturbing flesh) stuff. I don’t think Haraway shies away from that, actually – there is monstrousness and danger as well as pleasure in her cyborg bodies. As Silvana points out (http://digitalculture-ed.net/silvanad/2009/11/15/week-8-lifestream-summary/ ), Haraway’s background is in biology, and perhaps that sheds light on her take on leaky human/animal and human/machine boundaries.

]]> Comment on The shocking truth of being cyborg by Sarah Payne http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/11/11/the-shocking-truth-of-being-cyborg/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Sarah Payne Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:34:01 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/?p=110#comment-27 Hi Ali Interesting comment on the rat! The rat becomes an object simply by being connected to the robot. Is that what awaits us? Cyborg/posthuman = less human. If that is the case would it be something that you would choose to become? Sarah Hi Ali

Interesting comment on the rat! The rat becomes an object simply by being connected to the robot. Is that what awaits us? Cyborg/posthuman = less human.

If that is the case would it be something that you would choose to become?

Sarah

]]> Comment on Link to my VE mini-project by jen http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/11/09/link-to-my-ve-mini-project/comment-page-1/#comment-26 jen Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:12:53 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/11/09/link-to-my-ve-mini-project/#comment-26 I like the idea of trying to figure out if members *not* thinking something is a community means that it isn't (the flip side of the argument in Bell that it *is* if members think it is). Like Sian, though, I wonder if we need to ask where the community resides - if a group that is dispersed across web-based and face to face places is in some way different than the sum of its individual parts - maybe the difference is the community. Nice, thought provoking questions raised here, Ali - thanks. I like the idea of trying to figure out if members *not* thinking something is a community means that it isn’t (the flip side of the argument in Bell that it *is* if members think it is). Like Sian, though, I wonder if we need to ask where the community resides – if a group that is dispersed across web-based and face to face places is in some way different than the sum of its individual parts – maybe the difference is the community. Nice, thought provoking questions raised here, Ali – thanks.

]]> Comment on More Hine by jen http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/27/more-hine/comment-page-1/#comment-21 jen Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:09:56 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/?p=65#comment-21 Good extract, Ali, especially point 2. 'Covert' is the wrong way to think about research into open spaces and texts, I think, but maybe that's a place where the notion of virtual ethnography is problematic - it doesn't give us enough flexibility to see these entities as hybrid texts/communities. I think Hine's implying that there is a 'real' online community, but that it can't be accessed through observation alone - texts have to be coupled with contexts. I wonder what she means by 'contexts'? Good extract, Ali, especially point 2. ‘Covert’ is the wrong way to think about research into open spaces and texts, I think, but maybe that’s a place where the notion of virtual ethnography is problematic – it doesn’t give us enough flexibility to see these entities as hybrid texts/communities. I think Hine’s implying that there is a ‘real’ online community, but that it can’t be accessed through observation alone – texts have to be coupled with contexts. I wonder what she means by ‘contexts’?

]]> Comment on Lifeworlds / Workplace Transliteracy by jen http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/19/lifeworlds-workplace-transliteracy/comment-page-1/#comment-20 jen Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:30:59 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/?p=53#comment-20 hey - a puzzle! I like the contrast between the homogeneity of the monitors and the glimpses of individuality around the edges. I wonder if the overall impression would have been quite different had the monitors been on and displaying what people were looking at as well. Nice secondary visual artefact, Ali. hey – a puzzle! I like the contrast between the homogeneity of the monitors and the glimpses of individuality around the edges. I wonder if the overall impression would have been quite different had the monitors been on and displaying what people were looking at as well. Nice secondary visual artefact, Ali.

]]> Comment on My Visual Artefact by alip http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/comment-page-1/#comment-18 alip Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:35:18 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/#comment-18 @ Lesley - Actually you're not far off - it's partly down to that whole serendipitous browsing thing where you start on one task, hit a link, go somewhere else, remember a falf finished job you have to pick up on etc etc etc. Before you know it you've (or rather I've) got windows and applications open everywhere, lots of tabs, maybe a couple of half finished emails.... to actually get back to my desktop before the end of the workday is very, very rare. @ Lesley – Actually you’re not far off – it’s partly down to that whole serendipitous browsing thing where you start on one task, hit a link, go somewhere else, remember a falf finished job you have to pick up on etc etc etc. Before you know it you’ve (or rather I’ve) got windows and applications open everywhere, lots of tabs, maybe a couple of half finished emails…. to actually get back to my desktop before the end of the workday is very, very rare.

]]> Comment on My Visual Artefact by lesleyf http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/comment-page-1/#comment-17 lesleyf Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:30:46 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/#comment-17 I'm thinking mega multi-tasking and what a complete and utter nightmare it is. Keeping track of how many windows I have open and what they are doing and what I;m doing with them .... I can really lose the plot. for me this video is tops...I just hope my interpretation matches your meaning lol. I’m thinking mega multi-tasking and what a complete and utter nightmare it is. Keeping track of how many windows I have open and what they are doing and what I;m doing with them …. I can really lose the plot. for me this video is tops…I just hope my interpretation matches your meaning lol.

]]> Comment on My Visual Artefact by billb http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/comment-page-1/#comment-16 billb Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:26:43 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/#comment-16 What a coincidence! I've just counted my open Firefox tabs and they are 23, as many as the different web pages you used for your Flash/Gif. I suppose that tabbed browsing is to blame for our feeling of information overload. Before that you wouldn't be able to have 23 instances of your browser running without draining your system memory. Nice, straightforward and effective artefact, that works just as well as a Gif. What a coincidence! I’ve just counted my open Firefox tabs and they are 23, as many as the different web pages you used for your Flash/Gif. I suppose that tabbed browsing is to blame for our feeling of information overload. Before that you wouldn’t be able to have 23 instances of your browser running without draining your system memory.

Nice, straightforward and effective artefact, that works just as well as a Gif.

]]> Comment on My Visual Artefact by sian http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/comment-page-1/#comment-15 sian Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:01:40 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/#comment-15 Great one Ali. It seems to me that the dystopic interpretation comes from the regimented layout of the screens, rather than necessarily from the digital life-world being represented. Something in Nicola's vision of 'multiple flows' - flicking between tabs on the screen, across laptop, desktop and mobile device - somehow puts the individual at the centre of all this information overload and implies maybe a more positive, even joyful immersion in technology. It'd be interesting to see you 'do a Silvana' and construct a utopian equivalent to this one! (It's OK, I know you don't have time : ) ) Great one Ali. It seems to me that the dystopic interpretation comes from the regimented layout of the screens, rather than necessarily from the digital life-world being represented. Something in Nicola’s vision of ‘multiple flows’ – flicking between tabs on the screen, across laptop, desktop and mobile device – somehow puts the individual at the centre of all this information overload and implies maybe a more positive, even joyful immersion in technology. It’d be interesting to see you ‘do a Silvana’ and construct a utopian equivalent to this one! (It’s OK, I know you don’t have time : ) )

]]> Comment on My Visual Artefact by Tony McNeill http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Tony McNeill Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:58:05 +0000 http://digitalculture-ed.net/alip/2009/10/17/my-visual-artefact/#comment-14 I feel like David Bowie in that scene from Nicholas Roeg's The Man who fell to Earth ... Great visual that still works well as an animated gif. I dd something on Flash and ended up exported to avi and uploading to YouTube I feel like David Bowie in that scene from Nicholas Roeg’s The Man who fell to Earth … Great visual that still works well as an animated gif. I dd something on Flash and ended up exported to avi and uploading to YouTube

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